Want to see the process for how Edwards Pools installs vinyl liner inground pools? Watch this video showing the process from start to finish.
You will see the dig being done to the concrete decking being poured. Couple of things you will notice is how we install sump pits for ground water control, and the electrical work we can do ourselves, not through a sub-contractor.
This pool is a 16’x32′ with grecian corners on the shallow end. We installed Savi Melody LED color changing lights which do not require a wet niche. This also means there is no high voltage electric at the pool, only 12 volt.
Since this pool was finished late in the year, none of the landscaping was finished or grass growing yet. We’ll get the finished pictures once that is all done.
Main drains in above ground swimming pools. Should you install one, or not. We highlyEdwards Pools of Ohio, Main Drain recommend the installation of a main drain for a couple of reasons. Water circulation, and ease of cleaning. We have discussed these aspects in additional articles.
One of the big worries that people have with main drains is settling issues. We hear the stories about the drains that are sticking up a couple inches in the bottom of the pool, from improper installation. That can easily happen if the drain body and piping are not buried in the dirt and tamped in place. You can not use the sand that makes the base for the liner to set on, to install the drain in. If you do the sand will settle down and you will have the drain sticking up. That is what you do not want to happen.
This video shows how we set the drains we install completely down in the ground. We tamp the dirt back in tight around everything so that we have no issues.
Want a complete backyard makeover? From the simple to the elaborate, Edwards Pools can do it.
We worked with Outdoor FX, a design build firm based in Dublin on this job. We built the pool that included Roman style walk in steps, Pentair Intellibrite LED lights, Superflo pump, Intellichlor salt generator, and Mastertemp electronic ignition heater.
Outdoor FX laid the travertine stone decking, while incorporating fire features and the outdoor kitchen area.
The rising cost of energy have you concerned? Whether you are looking at building a pool, remodeling your exsisting pool, or upgrading your pump, Pentair Pool Products are they most eco-friendly products in the world for swimming pools.
From there Intellifo variable speed energy savings pump, to there LED lighs and automation systems, everything is designed to save you money on your energy costs.
Take a look at this video to see some of what they offer for your inground fiberglass or vinyl liner pool.
Wondering what type of decking you want around your in ground swimming pool. This video shows the installation of a stamped deck we did around a vinyl liner pool. The stamp pattern is called fractured earth or cracked earth, whichever you prefer.
The standard for decking around an in ground is usually broom finish concrete. A couple of other options is pavers, or a natural stone like travertine. Going with a stamped concrete finish can give you that pop to really finish off your pool project while not breaking the bank. With stamped decking starting at $9 a sq. ft. it is an affordable option to go with.
This video shows an inground equipment pad setup using a Hayward ProGrid DE filter. DE filters are the best filter you can buy in terms of how effecient they are. The one drawback is dealing with DE powder when you backwash and or clean the filter.
This system has a 1hp Hayward superpump, a ProGrid 4820 model DE filter, HeatPro heatpump, and Aqu-Rite salt system. You will notice the 3-way union valves we use to control water flow on the suction and return side. We like using the union valves because they can be broken down easily when you close your pool, or need to do some other maintenance.
Sorry about the video quality in advance but I think you can get the idea on what the setup is.
This short video shows an equipment pad for a inground vinyl liner pool. The filter is a Hayward C-900 cartridge filter. Water is moved by a 1hp Hayward superpump. A Heatpro heatpump from Hayward along with an Aqua-Rite salt system round out the setup.
We started installing cartridge filters a couple of years ago. For years we put DE filters on inground setups but wanted to get away from dealing with DE powder. A cartridge filter runs only a little less in the microns it will filter down too, but without the powder to deal with. And it still filters a lot more effeciently than a sand filter.
Enjoy this short video showing the cartridge filter setup.
This is a video showing the pump and filter system we use on our above ground pools. We use a combo system from Hayward that is the pump and filter combined.
The pump is a 1 1/2 horsepower Power Flo LX pump. The filter is a 150 pound sand filter with a topmount multiport head. This system is one that we use on pools up to 27′ round and 15×30 ovals. If we do sell a pool bigger than that size (which we actually discourage) we bump the filter up to a 200 pound filter. You want to make sure that the filter system is sized right to be able to turn over the water volume in your pool in less than 8 hours time. I did a blog on this you can read here.
Take a look at this video and you can see exactly what type of filter system that you will get when buying a pool from Edwards Pools. You can switch to a cartridge or even a DE filter if you want. In our experience though sand is the easiest way to go for the least amount of headache.
You will notice the 3 way valve plumbed in the front of the pump. One side is plumbed for the main drain, with the other side pulling water from the skimmer. This is how we plumb all our systems.
There really can’t be that much difference in above ground pool liners, right? Well you are right. The main difference in them is the way that they hang on the pool wall. Other than that they are pretty much the same. There are differences in pattern styles you can choose from but you are talking cosmetics now and not function.
There are three different ways that above ground pool liners are made to hang on the wall.
This will be the most popular, and well known style of liner. These liners simply hang over the top of the wall. You use a plastic coping strip that pushes down over the wall and liner to hold it in place. This type of liner is the most economical way to go as far as cost goes. One complaint about this type is that you can see it on the outside of the pool wall. Yes you can and that is why I personally don’t care for them.
Beaded liners are an option that is fairly well known. Most pool companies will sell beaded liners as an upgrade with a pool kit. These liners come with border patterns around the top, and usually a print pattern on the sides and bottom. When a beaded liner is installed you use a bead receiver. This is a track that snaps on top of the wall. It has a channel in it that the bead at the top of the liner snaps into. The downfall to this is, as your liner ages and shrinks over time it will have a tendency to pull out of the track. It then slips down the inside of the pool and can be a problem. A big thing we hear with beaded liners is, you don’t have to take the top of the pool apart to change them. We have done hundreds of liner changes on above ground pools, and we take the top off to change a beaded liner. Most times you do not have enough room under the topseats to get the new liner snapped into the track without a struggle. Easier to just take the top of the pool apart.
J-Bead or J-Hook Liners
This style liner came on the market around 12 years ago. You have the same thing as a beaded liner except for how it hooks to the wall. Instead of using a bead receiver track, there is an upside down J on the top of the liner that hooks on the wall. The advantage to this over the beaded liner is you have no issues with the liner slipping out of the bead receiver. This style liner is what we install on 90 percent of above ground pools.
There you have the three different options for liners on above ground pools.
One of the trends that is happening in the vinyl liner pool market is the option of covering steps and benches with the liner. I personally think that it is a great way to go. It gives the pool a uniform look rather than having a white fiberglass step sticking out against a blue liner.
Fiberglass steps and seating areas.
Going this route is the least expensive and the easy way to build a vinyl pool. The step or bench comes as a one piece unit that is bolted into place with the wall panels. The liner is sealed around these with a gasket and faceplate strip. This makes it easy to build the pool, knowing that your liner will fit without wrinkles. The bulk of vinyl pools are built this way and turn out very nice.
Vinyl covered steps and benches.
Going this route when building a vinyl pool is becoming very popular as I stated before. Adding the steps and benches with the liner covering them gives the pool complete uniformity. The color scheme of the liner is the same across the whole pool without the steps sticking out.
One of the drawbacks to covering the step was the use of rod pockets and clips to hold the liner into the step. It could be a pain to work with this system of securing the liner to the step or bench area. Manufactures now make a bead receiver that is built into the step or bench when it is assembled. The liner manufacture welds a bead on the backside of the liner where it will attach to the step. This is the same bead that is used to secure the liner into the coping around the top of the pool. This works much better in securing the liner to the step or bench than the rod pocket and clip system.
Building a pool with a vinyl covered step does require the builder to really pay attention to dimensions and measurements when constructing the pool. If the pool is not built right to specs there is a chance the liner will have wrinkles around the step area. You would think that should not be an issue but a lot of pools are built with the philosophy, “ah that’s close enough”. Sad to say but it’s true.
Overall if you are looking to put some “wow” factor into your vinyl liner pool, look at the vinyl covered step and bench options.